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Jake Rivers
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Posted - 2014.08.19 19:11:00 -
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This is nothing more than 'money laundering' for Somerblink, I imagine they are sitting on enormous amounts of ISK through the trillions in transactions they put through there lottery site. For the handful of people to run sommerblink it has to be insane on trying to find things to spend that amount of isk on in eve. Even if the take on the gambling is small, house odds always win and small amounts will add up to huge amounts given time and volume.
If CCP allows this practice to continue, I think they are setting a precedent in saying 'its okay to RMT'.
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Jake Rivers
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Posted - 2014.08.19 19:38:00 -
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Another thing I was just thinking about, if Sommerblink are buying the plex that players are buying from Markee Dragon, is Markee Dragon buying these plex from Sommerblink at a greatly reduced price to resell back to the players?
In this scenario CCP suffers greatly in loss of Plex sales because sommerblink and markee dragon will just keep recycling the same plex over and over again.
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Jake Rivers
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Posted - 2014.08.19 19:49:00 -
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Dirk MacGirk wrote:Jake Rivers wrote:Another thing I was just thinking about, if Sommerblink are buying the plex that players are buying from Markee Dragon, is Markee Dragon buying these plex from Sommerblink at a greatly reduced price to resell back to the players?
In this scenario CCP suffers greatly in loss of Plex sales because sommerblink and markee dragon will just keep recycling the same plex over and over again. No. He sells codes that must be redeemed.
But if the code is not redeemed, it is possible to sell it over and over right?
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Jake Rivers
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:08:00 -
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CCP Falcon if you were suspicious of this happening, and I certainly am not the first to come up with that angle, it is possible for someone to do this and completely abuse the system in a smooth RMT operation.
I do hope you recognize that Sommerblink is doing money laundering one way or another, it can't be helped with the massive amounts of ISK they handle on a daily basis, there must be some point where 'greed' takes over to convert these gaming assets into cold hard cash.
Anyways, if you saved any of that Crown Royal, tonight would be a good night to have a shot or two. ;)
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Jake Rivers
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Posted - 2014.08.19 20:59:00 -
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Lallante wrote:Annie Getyourgun wrote:Lallante wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Jake Rivers wrote:Another thing I was just thinking about, if Sommerblink are buying the plex that players are buying from Markee Dragon, is Markee Dragon buying these plex from Sommerblink at a greatly reduced price to resell back to the players?
In this scenario CCP suffers greatly in loss of Plex sales because sommerblink and markee dragon will just keep recycling the same plex over and over again. This was a prime suspicion of mine too, and is not the case. It's pretty embaressing for both you and CCP that you would publically admit that, as it shows a pretty fundamental lack of understanding of how PLEX/GTCs/MD work. I do hope you were disabused of that notion BEFORE you started posting all the "I agree with the mob view on this" posts, because representing CCP as you do, posting such things without even understanding the framework in which the arguments lie, let alone the actual facts, would be pretty negligent. For those still wondering: MD dont buy or sell plexs, they sell GTCs which can be (one time) converted into plexs. Its only after that conversion that blink buys the plex from the player. Nothing can be "sold back" to MD for resale. Actually, no one sells GTC's any longer. It is all done in PLEX (Or new accounts that include small perks and the first month of play through a CD key.) No. You can call them GTCs (the old name) or call them "redeemable plex activation codes" (the new name), but they arent plex they are a one time redeemable code.
Of course they are a one time redeemable code, but was sommerblink buying back the code, or making the player redeem his code and transfer a plex via contract to sommerblink? If sommerblink was simply buying the plex code, this could be used over and over again.
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Jake Rivers
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:24:00 -
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Chribba wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Given that weGÇÖre unable to provide reimbursements as per section 1.3 of our reimbursement policy, itGÇÖs good to see that SOMER Blink is shutting down in a controlled and stable manner, and that players will be able to withdraw their ISK and / or assets. While we will be monitoring this closely, we have no intention of interfering with this process, as we feel that allowing players to be able to have their assets and / or ISK returned by SOMER Blink of their own free will is an important part of bringing this situation to a solid resolution. WeGÇÖll have more information for you guys tomorrow, once myself and CCP Leeloo get back into the office and speak to the relevant people, including the CSM. This remains a top priority for the community team, those involved in other parts of CCP, and the CSM. Thanks for your patience while we work on bringing this to a close. So I hope this means that just because Somer decided to shut down themselves, the investigation is not over? If they are found "guilty" I still expect actions to be taken. Just because someone decides to cease on their own free will doesn't make it a get out of jail free card for the things done... I understand that it's a delicate situation and that CCP also do not wish to see players of Somer getting punished (where not needed) because they played a game where the operator did wrong things - but still allowing the bad guys to offload everything to alts and what not is also kinda of a slap on the wrist. Like said, I know it's delicate and hard. But I really don't want to see you drop the ball on this. /c
+1
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